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    Default Not sure how to best use jamplay to improve

    I have about 20 years of casual rhythm guitar strumming. I've never had formal lessons. I can figure out almost any song by ear and strum along and have it sound half decent but that's where I'm stuck.

    I can't do fancy licks.
    I can't play a solo.
    I know most open and basic barre chords. But that's it.

    I'd like to "take it to the next level" so I signed up for jamplay. But several of the videos I've watched have been rudimentary for me and I feel lost in a sea of videos.

    How would you recommend I proceed. I'm sure there's content that will help me. I just need to connect with it.

    Thanks,

    Doug

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    I play acoustic six string. I favor classic rock, country and blues.

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    Sounds like you have a great ear, but need help with the improv and technique side of things. I'd recommend Theory and Improv with Nick Kellie to start with. This series will be great for applying your great ear to some more technical approaches:
    http://members.jamplay.com/guitar/ph...th-nick-kellie

    Also, check out the live course I'm doing right now on the front page of JamPlay called "Playing for Real Music" We are doing exactly what you said you couldn't do We are working on fancy licks and stringing them together as ideas for cool solos over basic backing tracks! Hope this helps!

    Specifically for acoustic stuff, check out this series by Eric:
    http://members.jamplay.com/guitar/ph...47-eric-madis/

    Lot's of great stuff here but this should give you some good starting points
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    Sounds like you have a great ear, but need help with the improv and technique side of things. I'd recommend Theory and Improv with Nick Kellie to start with. This series will be great for applying your great ear to some more technical approaches:
    http://members.jamplay.com/guitar/ph...th-nick-kellie

    Also, check out the live course I'm doing right now on the front page of JamPlay called "Playing for Real Music" We are doing exactly what you said you couldn't do We are working on fancy licks and stringing them together as ideas for cool solos over basic backing tracks! Hope this helps!

    Specifically for acoustic stuff, check out this series by Eric:
    http://members.jamplay.com/guitar/ph...47-eric-madis/

    Lot's of great stuff here but this should give you some good starting points
    -Chris Liepe
    Content/Instructor
    JamPlay.com

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    Thanks Chris!

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    Another course that I enjoyed was Finding Your Voice: Improvisation by Michael Palmisano. I am working through it a second time and will go through it again. This course is a journey and not just something to work through. This was a fun course and the big step I was looking for. This is a course you want to take your time with.

    http://members.jamplay.com/guitar/ph...-improvisation

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    I should add we are aware that this is a problem for many. There's at this point too much content for a new member and/or newer player to sift through. The goal, in the end, is to have the questions you are asked when you signup generate a playlist or lesson plan that someone can follow through without ever having to browser the rest of the site if they are not inclined to. That should help at least get people on the right track! Any suggestions along those lines would be appreciated if anyone here has thoughts on the matter.
    Co-Founder and Content Specialist at JamPlay.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by zzzman74 View Post
    I'd like to "take it to the next level" so I signed up for jamplay. But several of the videos I've watched have been rudimentary for me and I feel lost in a sea of videos.

    How would you recommend I proceed. I'm sure there's content that will help me. I just need to connect with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by jbooth View Post
    I should add we are aware that this is a problem for many. There's at this point too much content for a new member and/or newer player to sift through. The goal, in the end, is to have the questions you are asked when you signup generate a playlist or lesson plan that someone can follow through without ever having to browser the rest of the site if they are not inclined to. That should help at least get people on the right track! Any suggestions along those lines would be appreciated if anyone here has thoughts on the matter.
    Excellent question. I'm glad you asked.

    JamPlay is like a good library. There are many books (videos) and lots of how-to books (videos).
    What you need is there. But lots of people don't know how to find what they want.
    For those that don't, a friendly librarian can be a good help. You can browse, but sometimes it is overwhelming.
    Libraries have ways to search their catalog, which might get you to the right shelf and you can browse from there.
    Same thing in a bookstore, there might be someone who can help.

    What JamPlay is missing is a set of lesson plans or playlists -- and a better index and search feature to find suitable lessons.
    If you know someone who is familiar with JamPlay and who can watch you play, and who knows your goals, he could suggest lessons.
    JamPlay Pro?

    Doing that from a set of questions would be a challenge, but worth trying. But not just once.
    Ask again as you progress, because you can be specific in the short term goals, and general in the long term goals.

    The questions would be about goals and also about your current level.
    Regarding the current level, there should be a list of Badges by level.
    For each skill and competency, there should be a badge to test that you have met it.

    There should be a list of skills and competencies. This (list) is what you need to do this (goal), and so on.
    And for each thing to learn, a list of lessons that teach it.

    There are many things to learn, not everybody needs to learn everything, and everybody will want a different path to those goals.

    This is a big goal in itself. I would suggest starting out with a list of what a novice newbie needs to know first thing,
    then going on to what beginners need to know, then what do you need to know to call yourself intermediate?

    Like zzzman74 said, some lessons are put your ring finger on this fret of this string or too basic for you in some way.
    For someone beyond that, the lesson would assume you know how to play the chords, or shapes, or scales, or whatever.
    And if you don't there's a lesson for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nwhy View Post

    Like zzzman74 said, some lessons are put your ring finger on this fret of this string or too basic for you in some way.
    For someone beyond that, the lesson would assume you know how to play the chords, or shapes, or scales, or whatever.
    And if you don't there's a lesson for that.
    Stuart Ziff is really good for telling you in the intros to his lesson series, that to take this you will need to be familiar with _________. Look at the first lessons of his Rockabilly course. He gives an example of something to practice and tells you that you will need to have a good understanding of arpeggios before taking his course. Then you know what you need to learn in preparation for his course. I have seen that from some of the other instructors as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbooth View Post
    The goal, in the end, is to have the questions you are asked when you signup generate a playlist or lesson plan
    Good idea. Taking a clue from GPS or online map programs, there are three questions to start with.

    1. Where are you now?
    2. Where do you want to go?
    3. How would you like to get there? shortest way, fastest way, scenic route?

    For #2, I would ask my (hypothetical) student to "look on YouTube and find a video of someone playing guitar how you would like to play it".
    There are so many genres and styles, it's easier to show what you want than to describe it in words. This is not exactly the same question as "what song inspired you to learn guitar?" or "what is your favorite song?"

    #1 would work best in person. Show me what you can play. A video would work too.

    #3 is really a question about how hard you are willing to work for it? How much you can practice? What do you do when something seems too hard? Do you want to learn the music theory which explains the what you are doing? Do you just want to learn songs? Are you a "see and do" person or a "hear and do" person?

    Those are the questions to start with. Any more thoughts?

 

 

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